Essen bei Picoletto

WOW.
Da bin ich zu hause, und habe fast Bauchschmerzen... und bedanke mich bei dem, der sie verursacht hat: Picoletto in der Holstenstraße!

Der bester Italiener mit Abstand - Service, Essen, Musik - hier stimmt einfach alles!

Nur eben, wenn man sich nicht zurückhält, und das kann ich bei so perfektem Essen einfach nicht, ist man am Ende kugelrund und vollgefuttert!

Einfach herrlich!

Railway horrors and hassles...

Up until now, a seemingly simple task is keeping me busy since about 6 days for about 6 hours absolute working time:

Buying a ticket from Hamburg or Saarbrücken in Germany, to Mont-de-Marsan in France, to give a talk about FAI at the RMLL free software conference.

And, believe or not - I'm NEARLY done today! Oh wait, just one little thing. The computer systems are out of service today...

What happened?

I've been searching the web system of the DB for pricing and booking info - but, you cannot get pricing information for international travels - oh, you can *book*, but they don't know the price. Yes, really, they want to sell you something without being able to tell you the price in advance!!! Lovely how these people do their business

I thought, "if I go to the site of the french railway, SNCF, I can get a good estimate of the overall price if I look at the station most near to Saarbrücken. Yes, one could think so. But it's not that SNCF points you to a single system, where you can enter start and destination, and gives you some information. Before getting travel info, they ask you, with which of the national sub-operators you want to go. Great. Where should I know that from???


So, I went to the station, to get help from a person at the counter. He could tell me the price for the smallest part of the travel - but not the rest he said the system is temporarily down. You know, from Saarbrücken to Mont-de-Marsan, a 7 hour travel, 3 different railway operators are involved, and they would be really too customer-friendly, and it's defintely technologically way too complex to build a single system for buying such tickets...

I went home, and suddenly came up with the idea that I could use the bahn.comfort hotline, because I'm a frequent customer. At first, they could only tell nothing, their systems didn't work, either. But they called me back - and then, they could tell me prices of the two missing parts - but they didn't know about the third price, which I, luckily, already had.

Lap result: with just 2 hours investment, I knew the price of the whole travel, and could start to think about if I want to travel that way (actually, I have to . flying or driving by car is out of any discussion)

Some hours later, I wanted to take the final step, and do the booking. This basically went fine. See it? This is the first thing, that went allright immediately, without complications!

Now, I had a booking number, and was supposed to go to the station and fetch the tickets at a ticket teller machine. Why? Yes, it is like that, they cannot send them by mail, because the travel is too near in the future - and, for some strange reason, they are not able to do electronic ticketing. Again, it's obviously technologically too hard to get a europe-wide e-ticket system, for railways, I guess we can all agree on that, right?!

But that would have been too easy. Yesterday morning, I got a call - my boss set an important meeting with a customer at the time when I'd be out of town already - so, I needed to change everything. This is the only thing that is, admittedly, not the railway's fault in the whole story.

So, I called them again, today. One would think, it's a matter of minutes to get (if possible) the current booking cancelled, and get a new booking, exactly one day later. One *could* think. It isn't! It took about half an hour, until I had at least a new booking for a day later. But the person on the phone couldn't find how to get the original bookings which I didn't need anymore cancelled and reimbursed - as I said, I didn't mind of the reimbursement anymore, but she said it would be reimbursed. She called me an hour later to tell me is finally went allright. She had to cancel the whole travel (which was back and forth) because cancelling one way wasn't possible, and make a whole new booking.

So, NOW, I should be able to walk to the station, and fetch my tickets.

I just did so. When I entered my card for identification, the system searched for a while, and, after aminute, told me, that no connection to the central system was possible. Other customers had the same problem. so I went to get a coffee. It's hard to imagine, that such an important central system, serving thousands of customers a minute, is oput of service for more than one minute, isn't it? Especially at a company, that raises it's prices on a nearly monthly basis (and the boss talking about this raise in the media as a new pricing structure that is much better for the customers - at least for 80 year old people travelling in company with their parents). What do they do with that money? Obviously not spending for decent systems operation...


So, we all agree, going to my favourite portuguese cafe around the corner, taking a galao and a nata, and coming back should give the DB enough time to fix their mission-critical computer systems.

Unfortunately, it doesn't. I'm now back at home, with a sum of invested time as stated above, and I have no tickets in my hands.

I'm really excited to see how this all will come to an end. I'm nearly sure, the cancelling and rebooking resulted in an error or two - so I don't expect to get tickets for the complete travel the next time I go to the stattion - but I want to have enough time to fix these errors...

Again, again, the organization of railway traffic does it's best to hinder me to save the nature and do some nice travel in the railway...

New Design - less graphics, funky colors

As Blogger pointed me to check out the new features at draft.blogger.com, I checked it out.
Playin' around with the designs available, I found that I like this one more.

Unfortunately, today I realized that the site-tracking functions from analytics have been removed from my custom javascript/html element (not in the plain html editing, but I had it in an explicit gadget that should not be changed by a desgn change), and I had to renew this today - tracking data for the last two days is obviously lost - not that there is too much to track yet.

New thing, also: the search widget - it let's you (and me) search this blog, sites linked in popsts as well on my links widget.

Check it out :)

Ubuntu - unterschätzt?

Ich habe ja in letzter Zeit viel Spaß, die Wichtigkeit von Technologien von Google bewerten zu lassen. Bei der Frage, ob eBox auf Ubuntu eine gute Idee ist, hatte ich wieder eine Gelegenheit. Na, hätte man gedacht, dass Ubuntu wichtiger sein könnte, als alle anderen Distributionen zusammen, plus macOS?

Google Trends sagt das aber.

Wenn man statt osx "apple" nimmt, sieht es ein bisschen anders aus - aber ob da immer nur der Hersteller gemeint ist? Und wenn ja, wird er da wegen des OS gesucht, oder was anderem - vielleicht dem ipod? Macbooks sind jedenfalls nicht so gefragt :)

Jedenfalls, selbst wenn man Apple zulässt, und mit Ubuntu und Windows vergleicht - ist Ubuntu immerhin noch zu erkennen, während andere Linux (und ebenso wird es macos und osx gehen) verschwinden...

Man sieht übrigens auch schön, dass die Ubuntu Kurve wirklich zur Gründung des Projektes anfängt, und von da konsequent nach oben geht - während Windows konsequent fällt...

Ubuntu - eine aussichtsreiche Alternative zu Windows?

ebox - Netzwerk-Service-Management

Habe mir am Wochenende ein bisschen ebox angeschaut: http://ebox-platform.com/

Ich brauche dringend eine grafische Oberfläche zum Anlegen von Hosts in DNS und DHCP - und so habe ich ebox mal getestet.

Nur für DNS/DHCP ist es natürlich zuviel (obwohl, ebox ist auch sehr modular - womöglich kann man alle anderen Sachen weglassen), aber es sieht serh sauber programmiert aus, kann sogar ajax - und bietet halt noch mehr, was ich sicher auch mal brauchen kann.

Schade noch, dass die allgemeine Netzwerk-Komponenten-Datenbank nicht mit dem DHCP/DNS Modul verbunden ist - man muss scheinbar noch in dem GUI für die beiden Dienste alle seine Hosts manuell eingeben - das geht natürlich gar nicht - es ist dann natürlich immer noch besser als sich auf den Server einloggen und alles mühsam in die Konfigurationsdateien eintragen, aber richtig cool ist natürlich wenn man Informationen über hosts nur an einer Stelle eingeben muss...

Ich weiß auch noch nicht, ob man es leicht auf anderen Distributionen außer Ubuntu installieren kann - ich habe mal deren Custom ISO für Ubuntu Hardy genommen - dann muss man nichts mehr machen. Aber ich bin natürlich auch schon dran, eine FAI Konfiguration zu stricken, die mir das Ding für den Produktiv-Betrieb installiert - dann wird testen für Debian ja nicht so schwer sein.

Jedenfalls, ich denke ein Blick auf Ebox lohnt sich!

:-[ LOAD TRAY failed with SK=5h/ASC=24h/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error

I admit - not exactly a sign of me being too smart when I start a dvd burning process with growisofs without putting a dvd into the drive...

But telling me that I did not, by saying

:-[ LOAD TRAY failed with SK=5h/ASC=24h/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error

is neither smart, nor nice, either...
Luckily, I didn't search for this for a really long time, but I did some googling before looking into the drive again :)

Testing ebox with the prebuilt Ubuntu Server install CD

Ebox looks like a promising infrastructure solution, and I started to evaluate it today.
In the first place, I want to have a database of my systems, and have it generate DNS and DHCP configurations.
I might have been content with just a DNS/DHCP GUI, but on the other hand, the ebox sources look quite nice at a first glance, and I like the additional features it offers, and will probably use more than just the dhcp/dns stuff in the future.

That is, if I once get it running. The live CD(though, downloaded quite some while ago) looked great, and worked well in Virtualbox, which I currently use for testing.
Trying to use the Ubuntu Server install CD, customized by the eBox team to make installation easy (as the say in their install instruction) to install it on my own, on a system with disk storage(still on virtualbox...), did fail.
The problem is, the Ubuntu server version comes with a PAE Kernel (smart enough, the installation kernel is non-pae - so you only realize that the actual system won't boot after going the whole way through the installation) - this *could* be solved by enabling PAE - but Virtualbox versions below 1.6.0 don't support PAE, and I'm on 1.5.6.

Tombuntu recommends to install a non-PAE Kernel via the rescue system (wow, it takes ages to boot and too many questions - the next time I'll use a decent live distibution, like grml for this), and that works well.
Only that I installed linux-686 because I don't see why I should be using the 386 version.

So, ebox is booting now, and doing some custom installation tasks - let's see how far we get :)

Resignation...

A day starting with loud laughter must be a good day!

So, here's my try to make your day such a good day: http://www.yahoorezinr.com/

At least for me, it worked!

:)

XenServer - exit full-screen with ctrl-alt

I just had some hard minutes searching for this:
In a Toolwire Training session (BTW: I hate them, they are requesting me to enter windows share pathes, but the java applet for the remote console doesn't accept my \ - so I had to copy it from an file explorer window - how ugly is that? they do not like german keyboards I guess - so they are not interested in the money of the german customers...) for my citrix xenserver certification, I clicked the "fullscreen" button to get the console of the running vm - by reflex, and so fast that I couldn't read the text on the button with the keyboard combination to get out again...

So, after searching (which didn't help, so with this entry google might help all other after me) for the and trying to figure the xenservcer exit fullscreen key combinations, I know in the end: it's ctrl-alt! Somehow I remember that from qemu, but I was sure I tried it sometimes before, until it finally worked...

reCaptcha - Humans help with OCR

Great idea to get literature that is hard to scan OCR'ed: reCaptcha

About 60 million CAPTCHAs are solved by humans around the world every day. In each case, roughly ten seconds of human time are being spent. Individually, that's not a lot of time, but in aggregate these little puzzles consume more than 150,000 hours of work each day. What if we could make positive use of this human effort? reCAPTCHA does exactly that by channeling the effort spent solving CAPTCHAs online into "reading" books.

I like it :)

More on calendar servers

And, as today I decided it's calendar day, some more hints on them:

Here, and here I've found An interesting presentation on current groupware and calendaring systems - a presentation from openexpo.ch 2008 from some guy from puzzle.ch

Some calendars mentioned there:

• Bedework: http://www.bedework.org/bedework/update.do
• sogo: http://sogo.opengroupware.org/
• Darwin calendarServer: http://trac.calendarserver.org/wiki/QuickStart
• Cosmo/Chandler Server: http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/CosmoHome

So, in the meantime, I also tried the Chandler Cosmo Server.
And, I must say, I like it!

It's hard to compare a 40MB Java software (but, yes, there's the tomcat server included...) with some php stuff that is much much smaller and handier.

Still, with chandler and some doc reading (most important - where to find the caldav URL I have to subscribe to in thunderbird? - found here) I have my calendar server up and running and being use in production in about an hour - a time in which for davical, as much as I like it's author, didn't even get the database connection going...

At a first glance, things look fine - I can move events form one calendar to the cosmo calendar, even importing ics files fromt hunderbird into the remote calendar seems to work fine!

Will see when and where I put this into production, and how it will turn out...

Accessing Zimbra Calendar from Thunderbird Lightning/Sunbird

Yeah! After hours of searchiung an trials, for multiple times in the last half year, I found, that I need to use a calendar URL like this:

webcal://:@zimbrahost.example.com/home//Calendar

To get a connection from my thunderbird to the company calendar on Zimbra!

Great!

Davical - getting started...

First attempt at getting davical/rscds running to test and try it. Distribution is Debian Etch, rscds package version 0.9.5

At a glance, Installation instructions on the Web are scattered - and all seem to be incomplete and slightly different.
See:

• http://wiki.davical.org/w/Installation_Guide_Update_%28Feb_2008%29 - somebody writing down his experiences when installing davical
  
• http://wiki.davical.org/w/Installation_Guide_Update - another one with such a desciption
  
• http://rscds.sourceforge.net/installation.php - the "main" install howto
  
• http://wiki.davical.org/mw/index.php/InstallationStuff - rather incomplete and for Lenny only...
  
• http://wiki.davical.org/w/Debian minimal Debian instructions - but actually nothing new and interesting, as the sources.list entry is already mentioned in all other pages, too
  
• and then, there are some more, distribution-specific pages I didn't look at
  

So, what should I really do?

I'll describe the steps I take here:

• add apt sources.list line: "deb http://debian.mcmillan.net.nz/debian unstable awm"

• sudo apt-key advanced --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys CCA377BD77494424B0DB674F8C90347F8F068012

• apt-get install postgresql-8.1

• su postgres /usr/share/rscds/dba/create-database.sh

could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
CREATE DATABASE
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
Supported locales updated.
CalDAV functions updated.
Database permissions updated.
could not change directory to "/root"
could not change directory to "/root"
NOTE
====
* You will need to edit the PostgreSQL pg_hba.conf to allow the
'davical_dba' database user access to the 'davical' database.

* You will need to edit the PostgreSQL pg_hba.conf to allow the
'davical_app' database user access to the 'davical' database.

* The password for the 'admin' user has been set to 'XXX"

Thanks for trying DAViCal! Check in /usr/share/doc/rscds/examples/ for
some configuration examples. For help, visit #davical on irc.oftc.net.

• cd /var/www/
• ln -s /usr/share/rscds/htdocs/ davical
• su postgres -c "createuser --no-createdb --no-createrole general"

Here, I drop the Database, and try to run the create script again.
In psql shell:

• DROP DATABASE davical

And again:

• sudo su postgres -c /usr/share/rscds/dba/create-database.sh

Now, the ouptut look better, no error messages, a password for the admin user is shown.
Still, Calling http://localhost/davical URL gives me:

Warning: require_once(AWLUtilities.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/rscds/inc/always.php on line 43"

somethings wrong with the inlcusion of the AWL utilities, but the package is installed...

• I try to add some stuff in php.ini / or in the virtualHost setting as described at http://rscds.sourceforge.net/installation.php - that helps. From the default /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini I only need to add:
• include_path = ".:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/awl/inc"
• default_charset = "utf-8"
• magic_quotes_gpc=Off
  

Then I have connection problems - messages like

Warning: pg_connect() [function.pg-connect]: Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "davical_app" in /usr/share/awl/inc/PgQuery.php on line 69

Database Error

Could not connect to PostgreSQL database

Strange database stuff, and in my opinion, non of the mix of all the Howtos got iot right!

I'm using now a localhost-conf.php like this:

pg_connect[] = 'dbname=davical user=general';
?>

And the lines I added in /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf:

local localhost davical_app trust
local localhost davical_dba trust
local davical general trust

So, I *should* have a running davical server now. The webinterface show me a nice start/login page, but the login does not work as the user "admin" and the password which was shown to me by the create-database script, and I also exactly copy and pasted it from the output of the sql query shown in some of the instructions.

I worked and fiddled on this for about 2 hours now, but here I am at a point, where I don't know where to go anymore...


As a summary, where do I see the problems with this promising software, all at the installation level:

• At first, it's really unclear what the nbame of the program is - davical or rscds?
• Then, which install instruction is "the right one" - having 4 to chose from, all on the official websites, doesn't make it easy
• Are we using the "general" user or the "davical_app" or "davical_dba" ?

A minor thing: http://rscds.sourceforge.net/installation.php says, pgsql >8.1 ist a requirement, but later has some things explicitly telling about 7.4 - at least this is superflouus to write abput <8.1 stuff :)


I'll see, and report, if I wil get the thing running with the help of the author, Andrew McMillan.
Currently, I also consider trying these servers mentioned on Wikipedia as Caldav Servers:

• http://chandlerproject.org/
• http://trac.calendarserver.org/
  

(the others mentioned are scalix, which I don't like, and isn't free, AFAIK, and zimbra, which we have running in our company, but I did never get the calendar feature working with an external client like thunderbird or evolution - so they are out of the race,...)

Dancing with myself

Letzte Nacht im TV: "Dancing with myself" - ein herrlicher Film mit irgendwie schön-faszienierenden Aufnahmen tanzender Menschen in unterschiedlichen Umgebungen.
Und sehr bewegenden Einblicken in das Leben von drei Menschen - unabhängig von einander, völlig unterschiedliche Charaktere und Altersstufen. So haben Sie auch unterschiedliche Arten, ihr Leben durch Tanzen mit Glück zu erfüllen - aber, eben die Gmeinsamkeit: alle finden Ihr Glück im Tanz.
Die andere, weniger schöne Gemeinsamkeit ist, dass alle auch gerade und auch schon länger sich in tragischen Lebenssituationen befinden, und nicht so recht den Ausweg finden. Einzige Glücksmomente fast, der Tanz.

Ich finde, eine sehr schöne, sehr gelungene Doku über Leben, Glück und Tanz.


Interview mit den Regisseurinnen dazu: http://www.titel-magazin.de/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3263

Kritiken dazu:

• http://www.festivalblog.com/archives/2005/02/perspektive_deu_3.php5
• http://www.kino-zeit.de/filme/artikel/6339_dancing-with-myself.html
• http://www.critic.de/filme/detail/film/dancing-with-myself-755.html
• http://www.filmspiegel.de/filme/dancingwithmyself/dancingwithmyself_1.php
• http://www.filmz.de/film_2007/dancing_with_myself/
  

XenServer, Davical, and stuff...

I'm doing a late start in terms of work today - after a long weekend with no work for employer stuff, I couldn't get into it too early...

I guess I'll start with taking my XenServer course, so I'll be able to pass a certification for this in the next 2 weeks.

Interesting thing I saw, some while ago, but now I decided that I must test it, because the chaos with multiple local calendar systems get's more distracting everyday: Davical - a caldav calendar server. Interesting thing is, it's being developed by Andrew McMillan, whom I know from Debian, especially from the Debconf Video team where we worked together in Helsinki.

I guess it'll become a good day, despite the late start :)

Getting started with liferay portal and mysql

I searched a little while when looking for how to get started with liferay and store my data in a mysql DB.
There are some hints in this documentation(I'm using a tomcat bundle, version 5.1RC).
But it's actually simpler. I didn't even need to explicitly install the mysql driver by hand.
Just change

conf/Catalina/localhost/ROOT.xml

There, enable and adjust the lines for the mysql driver, disable the hsql stuff.
At first start, the database is created automatically.

Another thing I searched for a while is the password you need for the first login - the default admin account...

The user/password combination here is test@liferay.com/test - can also be found here.

Let's see what liferay brings... I'm interested in and excited about using it to couple together all the data services I need in my daily life - wiki for unstructured information, a blog for you to read, addresses, calendaring, todo management, project timetracking and stuff like that.
I'm evaluating liferay for that sake - it seems to bring quite some portlets in these areas, and I'll add the missing ones
The other thing that seems interesting in this area is the exo webOS - part of the exoplatform portlet container. What I dislike always when looking at exo is the parallel offering of multiple different distibutions packages, but that seem to become normal when looking at todays software platforms - feature-rich ans large, they are.
On the other hand, I will probably be better of making my way through that complexity, than wirting every app I need on my own...

Blender... finally getting into it...

I finally took time to further investigate Blender 3D - a full featured, professional 3D modeling and animation package, plus compositing functionality.

Some of the first things I ever wanted to do with computers were Games and animations, but somehow, after my first steps with 3D Studio R4 (the software that came on more than 10 3,5" floppy disks, as CDROM's wheren't that common in thoise days), on DOS, the Internet came and took my enthusiasm and attention.

Not that I ever forgot my interest for CG, in the first days, I even mixed 3D with the web, and Got into VRML1998 - which never really took off in the mainstream world - but I went a totally different path when I realized that programming software and administering Linux systems is such an interesting task - and, in the end, knowing how you get computers up and running in a nice and reliable way is the basis of everything else you do with them.
I learned a lot, decided, that I want to do all my work with free software, goit to know interesting people and projects.
And, the internet, and the open source world, is still very interesting.

On the other hand, these days, when thinking back, I realized that something is missing. So, here I am, going back to the roots, and starting to learn blender.
I started with ordering the book "the essential blender", read through it and do some of the stuff explained in there.
One first interesting thing I learned: When playing around with the program on my own, I was sometimes annoyed that I have the numpad keys 7, 1, and 3 to show the views "top", "front", and "side(from left)" - but I missed for a while the opposide sides of each of those - "bottom", "back", "side(from right". In the very first chapter of the book, the explanation: By using "ctrl" key when hitting 7/1/3, you get the other sides... as easy as that.

And it's true, this book, even if you already know some of blender, it show surprising moments as you read it...
As a goody, the first picture I created when playing around with CG yesterday - nothing fancy, but I likr the resault of tuning the smoothness of a UV-Sphere, the hairy particle effect on a cube, some lights and the camera with a funny dotted effect:



Ah, and, by the way, I didn't find this by searching for it: saving the contents of the blender render window works by hitting "f3" - I only realized now,. some mintues later, it is in the files menu of the main application - I didn't look there. Nice extras: you can even screenshot subwindows (the blender UI consists of multiple windows and button boxes which can easily be combined at the user's wish), and the whole application.

Online mit physikalischem Zugriff?!

Erst mal musste ich schon loslachen, als ich diesen Satz bei Heise las:

BKA will für Online-Razzien in die Wohnungen Verdächtiger

Hmm, ja, online steht ja auch dafür, dass es beonders viel damit zu tun hat, dass man sich im gleichen Raum befindet wie ein anderen Kommunikationspartner. Das Interessante ist ja nicht etwa, dass man was tun kann und Aktionen an physikalisch entfernten Orten auslösen kann, ohne jemals dort gewesen zu sein...

Das Thema ist natürlich eben kein besonders lustiges, sondern das totale Gegenteil.

Mir fällt da gar nicht mehr viel zu ein - es erzeugt eigentlich nur noch Sorgen und Angst, was die Leiter unserer Sicherheitsbehörden und für diese Bereiche verantwortliche Politiker so Tag für Tag von sich geben. Bester Kommentar dazu bei Heise ist dieser.

Lernprogramme nur für Windows?! Kein Grund, ein Migrationsprojekt aufzugeben!

Tja, die Wiener kippen Ihr Wienux System zu 75% zurück zu Vista.

Weil sie noch nicht gemerkt haben, dass es massenhaft freie Lernsoftware gibt!

Es heißt bei pressetext:

Die Entscheidung, die Kindergartenrechner wieder auf Microsoft umzurüsten, ist aufgrund von Problemen der benötigten Software mit dem Linux-System gefallen, erläutert Erwin Gillich, Leiter der MA 14 gegenüber pressetext. "Notwendig wurde diese Maßnahme, da auf den Geräten unter hohem Zeitdruck eine 'Sprachförderlösung' eingesetzt werden musste, die - zumindest derzeit - nur unter Windows lauffähig ist. Unterstützt wurde diese Entscheidung durch beträchtliche Probleme beim Einsatz von pädagogischer Software unter Wienux", berichtet Gillich. Dabei handelt es sich um Windows-Software-Produkte, die oft unter dem Windows-Emulator Wine gar nicht oder nur instabil betrieben werden konnten, begründet Gillich die Entscheidung zur Investition von 125.000 Euro in Windows-Systeme.

Unfassbar, Leute! Wieviel freie Lernsoftware kann man für 125.000 Euro bauen?!

Wiener, schaut doch bitte mal, was es so bei Skolelinux, Edubuntu, dem österreichischen Jux Projekt so gibt!
Keine Zeit zum Installieren? Probiert es mit LiveCD's!

Was Ihr da macht, und an Geld rausschmeisst, ist wirklich nicht nachzuvollziehen...